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ah

1:32 AM

i get what you meant then

Sorry I left for a bit, I thought that fronting was another term for switching

it sorta is

1:32 AM

but as you see, its more complicated than just that

Fronting just means being connected to the body and/or controlling it

1:32 AM

usually while being the active thinker

there's always someone fronting

perhaps not if you're meditating

well in that case you enter an altered state of conciousness anyways

If tulpa go "on standby" when not actively thinking about them, then how can you both control the body at once? Or is it possible but difficult?

They'd be fronting, so the "they need attention to function" rule doesn't really apply in that scenario

2:06 AM

You don't exactly need attention if you're the one doing the active thinking anyway

2:06 AM

but, in our experience two people controlling the body at once is pretty difficult anyway

The exception is larger than the rule.

it doesn't last long until one person takes over completely and the other fades out

Does the host become the tulpa then? For lack of a better term.

Most forcing causes fronting.

I don't know what you mean, Eevee

2:07 AM

Our host usually stays in the same place regardless of what the tulpas are doing

If the active thinker is the tulpa

but she can't switch out

Then does the host stop actively thinking?

Yeah

2:08 AM

She just passively watches, for us

2:08 AM

hopefully someday soon she'll actually leave the front

It's easy for two to control. You both must be careful to maintain focus.

Leave the front?

2:08 AM

And focus on what?

Focus not focus on.

How do you focus without a target?

if it helps, I'll link you to the same switching advice flandre linked me to when I mentioned that I couldn't switch out either

The target would be controlling the body

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-game-last-one-to-post-wins?pid=204361#pid204361

[Game] Last one to post wins!

Still not many words

How do you breathe without a bellows?

We don't. We have organic bellows

2:10 AM

I feel like I missed the point.

2:11 AM

I can derp sometimes, so I'm sorry if I missed it.

At this point I don't really think advice will help us at all, we just have to keep doing what we're doing and hope we figure something out

I just read the article

2:12 AM

And ok Apollo

2:12 AM

So I just need the frame of reference?

2:12 AM

Which I'll get by focusing, but not focusing on.

2:12 AM

So that I can front with my tulpa

2:13 AM

Is that right or did I miss anything?

I'm confused

I need a frame of reference to understand fronting. But I won't get that until I do it. To do it, I need to focus so that I'm on the same "wavelength" so to speak as my tulpa. Then they associate with my body. After that, I'll have a better understanding of fronting. Does that sound right?

The tulpa just needs to focus on the body and its senses, and become the one doing the active thinking

2:24 AM

you, as host, don't need to do anything other than not interrupt them

Got it

2:26 AM

Is this an advanced technique? My tulpa still has problems speaking at times.

2:26 AM

Would they be able to do this?

They should still be able to possess if they can't speak, but I think being able to speak freely would make it easier for them to get into the frame of mind of being the active thinker

2:28 AM

Here is a guide that Piano wrote on possession https://community.tulpa.info/thread-possession-possession-explained-guide

Possession Explained (Guide)

Possession Explained by Piano Felight “Possession” refers to a tulpa’s ability to control the physical body. To newer systems, it may seem like a daunting and difficult task to achieve. However, it is

Thanks!

any good ways to keep a tulpa log without a paper trail?

3:48 AM

I think I got some vocality and I'd like a decent way to mark it down

yeah, you seem to have a computer

4:02 AM

a word/wordpad/notepad file should work fine

[ @Aren who is the adversary that you're trying to keep your logs from?]

4:59 AM

[I, for example, want to keep my logs hidden from my coworkers and family. My ISP and government aren't a concern for me, since tulpamancy is merely weird and not illegal.]

5:00 AM

[So I have lots of options. Pretty much anything that takes a password and doesn't auto-sign-in should work.]

5:01 AM

[If your ISP is a concern - i.e., is controlled/accessible by the adversary, such as parents - then we can teach you about encryption and keeping data off of the network.]

Flash drives could work if you have a screwdriver and an Ethernet socket you can unscrew

5:03 AM

Aren't you exaggerating a problem?

[I'm presenting options to fit various scenarios. If the only goal is to literally not leave a paper trail, then any device that can access Discord is already sufficient for the job with no additional skills.]

5:05 AM

is fun a parties, y'all.

Even with all the dark crap I have on my computer I'm not that concerned with isp issues. Unless your parents really don't respect your privacy...then idk

5:08 AM

We have some problems with parents and privacy, but they're resolving themselves... especially with the highschool milestone

5:10 AM

I will not forgive the college for giving me a warning for the things they traced from my laptop. (sorry... got offtopic)

5:11 AM

Even just a paid VPN will go a long way, from what I've heard

5:12 AM

Yeah, not in my budget.

5:14 AM

There are some free ones that aren't the most secure but they'll get you past your college, at least

@Aren First, do you need to share your log with others? No ==> physical diary or Wordpad file on your hard disk. Worried about someone snooping on it? Stick it into an encrypted zip file (have to extract to read or modify) or a Veracrypt container (mounts like a disk and then you can access it directly). To share with others, Tumblr is popular. Just make a new email for it, don't associate that to yourself in any way, and don't put stuff in it that could identify you. Got someone who might spy on your internet traffic? Tumblr is HTTPS so that isn't very much worry since everything between your machine and Tumblr is encrypted. If you're still worried about that, you can post from a laptop or phone on coffee shop wifi, or get a free VPN app, or use Tor which is like a free VPN that works by bouncing traffic through other nodes on its network.

[I'm going to be 100 days old soon, and I didn't want to wait a whole year to celebrate my birthday. Do you guys have any ideas what is a good celebration for a tulpa is? Because I don't.]

It depends on the tulpa. What do you enjoy doing?

[What do I... enjoy? Hmm, I never thought about it before really. wow.]

6:20 AM

It feels like you told an AI to divide by 0. Ack!

Try doing stuff, either like in your wonderland, or IRL things you'll be able to do. See what you enjoy.

6:21 AM

As for IRL things, watching movies is an easy one for a young tulpa because it doesn't require possession or quick response to things.

[A movie huh?]

Turn based games (board or video) are also possible. Like, you tell your host what you want to do in it.

6:22 AM

Games requiring keeping secrets are more difficult.

[I can somewhat play games on my own. But any sort of secret keeping is a nope, because we are both always active/front-ish.]

6:24 AM

[But thanks for the idea... maybe if its still out we can watch Ready player one.]

If not in theaters, there's always streaming/download

6:25 AM

yeah actually that is still in theaters around here

6:25 AM

er at least 1 theater

My birthday is nearing soon! I could use the same advice

[Thats it then. I guess we can go see that.]

6:26 AM

[Your year birthday?]

Yep!

6:26 AM

October 13th~

[Lucky]

Congrats

It's been one helluva ride

[But, ya know... you really got me thinking, 'what do I enjoy'. I don't know... really. I need to go think about it. And If nothing, I need to explore and find stuff I really like... hmmmm]

Trying new things is how hosts figure out what they like

6:29 AM

What do you do these days?

[We just play videogames and go to work.]